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 modificaciones mono a mono Ver. 2012

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MensajeTema: modificaciones mono a mono Ver. 2012   Sáb 27 Ago 2011 - 3:50

...weno cabros, lo prometido es deuda, ya que no subi las modificaciones chocolate->AE,
si voy a colocar las de ver 2012, re balance (LOL), y ajustes varios de pifias especificas.....

...claro que pa no dar lata va acompañado de impresiones personales mono a mono......


• Cr.HP is back to how it was in Super.
(ya que cagaron U2, incentiven U1 tonce)

• Tornado Throw Damage up +10: LP 160 MP 180 HP 200
(es la principal herramienta de daño del wn)

• Breathless : from startup till active, hit invulnerable.
(van a empezar a webiar denuevo con esta wea en ranked)

• Second Low Change of Direction Hit Stun improved, So when you do 2nd Low FADC, you’ll be at +9 at most. Meaning that, you can do 2nd Low FADC Cr.HP U1.
(interesante, pero si hubiera sido para second mid......)


• Close St. MP is now -4 on block

• Close St. MK is +2 on hit, +3 on block
(mas combeable y para frame traps)

• Focus attack hitbox is tweaked to be able to hit crouching opponents too.
(whiffeaba en ciertos monos agachados)

• Rising Jaguar (LK, MK, HK) – at the start, horizontal hitbox is increased a little, so that after a Rising Jaguar FADC, its harder to accidentally crossover the opponent. Also, one extra frame is given to FADC a HK Rising Jaguar (easier to fadc), thus making it easier to connect an Avalanche Jaguar.
(mejor antiaereo ahora y mas facil Fadc con U2)

• As for U1, even if you activated it at close range, it wont go over a standing opponent.
(U1 a quemarropa, ya no pasa cagando excepto en wns agachaos)


• Demon-flip punch no longer an overhead (TL note: this was one of the few buffs in AE I think), so you can now block low for that.
(no entiendo a estos wns, pa que chucha le cambian esa wea en AE entonces)

• Forward throw now has 2 more recovery frames.
(se notaba que derrepente quedaba muy vendio en whiff)

• As for buffs, when you cancel a teleport into U2, the damage has been increased to 421.
(el teleport escalaba daño, LOL)


• Headbutt damage fixed back to Super, strong 120, Fierce 140, EX 150.
(compensacion post AE, pero en terminos de hitbox, sigue siendo orrivle)

• U2 damage 399.
(mas daño pa una wea que nadie ocupa)

• Hit properties on Dash Overhead changed so that it can combo into C.MP on all characters.
(interesante, hay monos a los que turcamente empujaba muxo pa linkear con los jabs)

• Close stand fierce hitbox extended downwards so that it hits crouching characters that it used to whiff on.
(quedo util para meaty attacks)


• Each ball gets an extra 10 in damage, so Jab 110, Strong 120, Fierce 130, EX 120.
(mas spam de esta mierda en ranked)

• For Fierce and EX Ball, if it hits on the second frame (same frame where FA cancel is possible), it causes blow-back damage. Will be easier to follow-up EX Ball with additional hits if FADC’d.
(mas facil linkear con fadc, pa darle mas tech al mono)

• Charged Rock Crusher gives Blanka a 5 frame advantage, so he can do Rock Crusher, C.MK, FP Ball as a combo.
(misma impresion que el buff anterior, blanka mas tecnico)


• Heavy Spiral Arrow’s hit properties are back to how they were in SSF4 console (TL note: in AE when you combo into heavy Spiral Arrow, sometimes Cammy will go under your opponent and switch… which is especially bad when you’ve successfully pushed him into the corner).
(ya no pasa cagando pal otro lao para poder aplicar tower mejor)


• Head stomps will come out on DF, not just D. They note that DB won’t work though.
(pisotones con diagonal DF, cuidado con eso)

• Kintekishu (B+MK) +3 advantage on counter hit, easier to hit confirm into the second hit.
(situacional para mi gusto)

• Sweep 150 stun.
(nadie se enfoca en stunning con chun, eso creo)

• Kikoken startup 9F, easier to use as AA/use in combos.
(buff decente y justo, antes era 14L, 12M, 10F y 10 EX)

• They are fixing the bug where characters fell out of the U1 juggle in AE.
(orrivle cuando juggleas hosenka y el wn se te cae a mitad del ultra, sino preguntenle a DTS)


• Faster forward, backward walk speed
(bien interesante este buff, veamos cuan rapido camina ahora)

• Hammer Hook (overhead) advantage revised; +3 on hit on standing, -1 on hit on crouching, -4 on guard for both; can be used when holding the knife
(poca gente lo usa, veamos si esta wea incentiva el uso)

• If you hit a standing opponent, cr.LK → MK Ruffian Kick combos
(otro gatling pal mono, como si le faltaran)

• Bad Spray is now two hits, Super-cancellable; with an FADC thrown in, Bad Spray FADC Final Destruction (UC1) will connect
(misma opinion que el hammer hook)

• MK Ruffian Kick has forwarded extended hitbox
(arreglos varios)

• EX Zonk Knuckle: first hit does further horizontal knockback; EX Zonk FADC UC1 is now easier to connect
(antiguamente, casi corner only este fadc)

• Can now guard during Knife pick up
• (All while holding knife)
- st.LP +6 on hit
- st.MP is now 2 hits
- st.HP is +3 on hit
- cr.MP now has 4 active frames, smaller arm hurtbox, making it harder to stuff
- cr.HP is now 7F start-up, easier to use as anti-air
(incentivando un cuchillo que con cuea uso yo)

• Neutral/Forward jump LP active for 10F


• Pushback from his close standing Standing Hard Kick has been shortened.
• Close Medium Punch now starts up in 5 frames. This was 6 in Arcade Edition.
• Crouching Hard Kick now starts up in 10 frames. This was 11 in Arcade Edition.
• The combo cl.HK, cl.MP, cr.MP xx EX Dankukyaku is now possible.
• Reduced the height limit on Air EX Dankukyaku (Dan Kicks), a.k.a., how high you needed to be before you could do it.
• Hard Kick Dankukyaku now deals 130 damage instead of 120.
• Dan’s Jumping and Crouching Taunt build meter now. 70 on hit, 30 on block.
• Dan’s Super Hissho Buraiken has been altered so that it’s harder for characters to have hits whiff against them. However, the blog notes this buff won’t work if you activate from too far away.
(pa que estamos con weas, yo creo que ni con todo esto sale de su tier este pobre wn)

*Dee Jay*

• Far st.MP hitbox increased in front of him, so you can use it for cancels like Ryu does. The damage is 90, so it also does pretty well in a trade (could use tl check on last part, moving quickly)
(mejorando pokeos varios)

• Reverted Air Slasher getting counterhit during recovery
(no entendi, air slasher de reversal deja en counterhit al oponente, o te deja a ti en counterhit si te conectan un reversal)

• Sobat damage +10 on LK/MK/HK (now 90/110/130)
(incentivando combos con las sobat) (<<- -> + LK/MK/HK pa que se entienda)

• Super can be canceled into U1 by inputting the command up to the second-to-last hit, between them it adds up to 570 damage
(tiene EX tan buenos que no se si realmente valga la pena juntar super)


• Yoga Inferno damage 75 x 2, 60 x 3 for a total of 330 damage.
(redistribucion de daño principalmente, para escala en combos)

• EX Yoga Blast damage 90 + 50. First hit gets 20 more damage, second hit 20 less, so if Sim only gets the first hit he gets the better damage.
(mismo proposito que el buff anterior, cachen el ultimo buff)

• S.jab active for 4F. But other frame info unaltered.
(buff para pokeo con esto, antes era de 1 solamente)

• Hurtbox on Yoga Blast reduced.
(mas arreglos a yoga blast)

• Can follow up Yoga Blast with additional moves for combo.
(juggles con esta wea, tate atento a sus nuevos usos freddy)


• Standing Roundhouse counterhit is now +7
(especifico y situacional)

• Air Jab can now cross up
(por fin crossup pal negro pipope, un abanico de chances ahora)

• Air Fierce is active for 7 frames (1 longer than in AE)

• Focus Attack level 1 is -3 on hit or block
(dashear se hacia imperativo porque quedabas en -21 en hit y bloq.)

• Medium and Heavy Short Swing Blow are less vulnerable to low attacks
(nerf, ni tan nerf, se usa poco salvo el EX)

• Thunderbolt will now always complete if it hits and causes untechable knockdown, and the EX version will not flash on the way up
(buff para incentivar su uso)

• The Rose is focus and super cancelable
(nos estan webiando, cierto?)

• Ultra 1 Rolling Thunder will connect fully on aerial opponents
(juggle con cinema y todo?, ver para creer)

*E. Honda*

• Jab headbutt gets its upper body invincibility back.
(cacharon que la habian cagado en AE)

• Strong headbutt loses it, so it works the same as Jab Headbutt did in AE.
(si poh, en AE con que spammeabai con este mono, no pasa na con los sumo smash)

*El Fuerte*

• Tortilla has reverted to its Vanilla form, i.e., invincible straight after start-up
(de vuelta a como estaba antes de AE, yessss)

• EX Quesadilla Bomb now only takes 210 frames of charge and wall-bounces, and both level 3 regular and EX Quesadilla Bombs only freeze Fuerte for 10 frames on hit.
(incentivando quesadilla ex, antes cargaba en 340 creo, pero el wall bounce, mmm, guacajuggle?)

• Elsewhere, cr.LP can be chain cancelled into other jab or short moves, while st.FP, Habanero Dash, Sliding now works on everyone.
(en general los normales son bien orrivles excepto cl.st.HP y cr.HK)

*Evil Ryu*

• Health 900, Stun 900 (up from 850/850)
(tomando remedios pal sida)

• Far standing roundhouse has a bigger hitbox

• Crouching roundhouse has 6 frame startup
(antes era de 7)

• Far standing HP on counterhit knocks the opponent down and deals more damage, can FADC into a combo
(puño fuerte de lejos bota en counter y es fadc ahora)

• Hop kick can cancel into air tatsu and EX air tatsu, or Shun Goku Satsu o axe kick
(bastante util ahora)

• Medium dragon punch + 1f invicible
(bueno para wakeups)

• Light Axe Kick is +1 on block
(y por ende, mas linkeable)

• Heavy Axe Kick damage is now 130 and stun is 150, but has faster startup (26 frames) and can be used in combos where the Medium version was before
(hay que arreglar la herramienta exclusiva de este mono para sus links)

• EX Axe kick is 21 frame startup now. If Axe kicks hit airborn opponents you get untechable knockdown

• Air Medium Tatsu when done while rising will stop you from moving
(pa donde vay arrancando?)

• Super is now 370 damage instead of 350
(para pegarte un sida de la.....)

• U1 charge time is shortened, letting you do Lv2 focus attack into max charged Metsu Hadouken
(pal mini-cinema sera??)

*Fei Long*

• Rekka block stun adjusted, after second blocked rekka, most people delay the third one for counter hits. You can now punish delayed third rekka hits accordingly. After blocked 2nd hit of Rekka, Light version 8f, Medium version 10f, Heavy version 12f
(primer fierrazo pal maricon, menos spameable, chippea menos tambien como extra)

• (loose translation of this) Flame kick: Light 120 down to 110, Medium 140 down to 120, Heavy 160 down to 150, EX 200 down to 190. Flame kick FADC on block is 1f less on advantage, making it.. ????
(segundo, puta que quitaba esta wea)

• F+MK buffed up from 60 to 70
(arreglando su overhead pa que se acuerden que tiene)

• All Chickenwing nerfed from 30+30+50 (110 total) down to 35+35+30 (100 total)
(toma fierrazo fei ctm!!!, no mas loop con MP, daño redistribuido pa que no duela en combos, y
revisada la hitstun pa que no se haga crossup esta shet)

• Crouching MP's damage has been reduced from 65 to 55
(fierrazo suave pa que no quede mongolo)

• For both close standing and far standing LP, hitstun has been decreased by 1 frame. On hit it is now +5, so you can't combo into certain moves now.
(otro fierrazo suave, por si aun asi se cree xoro)


•(KKK stance) crouching HP’s damage on counter-hit has been corrected to 1.25x the regular amount. (TL note: previously it wasn’t? What was it in AE?)
(multipliquen 180 x 1,25, debe ser uno de los normales mas dañinos del juego, imaginate en counter)

•(KKK stance) crouching HK now has 5 active frames (up from 3).
(muxo mas mejor antiaereo)

•If the last hit of medium/heavy Gekirou (dragon kick) came out, Gen gets a bonus +10 to super meter.
(ya era hora, incentivar pegarlo completo)

•The final hit of heavy Gekirou will put your opponent in untechable knockdown state. So use it as an opportunity to okizeme/apply pressure on wake-up.
(genial ahora para el jump-in pressure especifico del mono)

•EX Snake Strikes’ properties will now differ depending on which buttons you activate it with (light+medium, light+heavy, or medium+heavy). The distance Gen travels during this move, and the number of hits vary. Also, from 1st frame all the way till the end of active frames, EX Snake Strikes are now projectile-invincible.
(la wea tecnica @_@, pa que mas piano??? dios mio)

•All versions of Snake Strikes will have 4 extra hit/blockstun as long as you don’t end with the final strike. So if you FADC Snake Strike before the final hit it’s +6 on hit, +2 on block.
(eso me gusto, los slaps se parecen un poco mas a los de vanilla ahora)

•(PPP/Mantis style) U2′s start-up is now 7 frame on start-up, down from 9 frames.
(sigue sin gustarme, eso del white damage.....)


• His Denjin can be sped up to up to twice its normal speed and powered up by over half damage by doing a 3S SA3 Ryu (spinning the stick like a loon from Ultra start-up until you let go of the attack buttons). There are three speed-ups and five damage levels, with the charge times as follows:

Level 1 – 13 frames
Level 2 – 17 frames
Level 3 – 37 frames
Level 4 – 57 frames
Level 5 – 80 frames

• Each fully-charged Denjin now does 45 more damage, while charge times are now the same regardless of the amount of your ultra gauge.
(Ahora U2 ftw!!!, sumenle a eso el wall bounce)

• As for the Senku Goshoha, LP hits further in front, MP is the same as his Super LP version and HP is the same as his Super MP version. Also, Kongoshin has a slighty larger hitbox and deals 200 stun, while cr.HP deals more hitstun and so locks the opponent in place for longer, allowing cl.MP, cr.HP, EX Senku Goshoha to hit everyone.
(supermejoras para el empujon, mas un gatling intreresante, y el counter-move marea mas)


• The frames in which Guile could be counter-hit after Sonic Boom have been eliminated? (Not 100% sure)
(por si fuera poco, bien dificil castigarle un mal sonic boom, ya no queda en counterhit)

• Air throws 3F startup.
(como chocolate denuevo)

• Spinning backfist 100 damage.
(de 120, siguen nerfeando este cornete barza)

• Can’t be thrown out of upside down kick from the 6th frame until the last active frame.
(creo que queda airborne ahi ahora, eso podria explicarlo)


• Neutral Jump HP hitbox increased
(uno de los pocos verticales que no arreglaron en AE)

• Jump MP and Jump HK hitbox AND hurtbox increased
(ojo, mas castigables)

• Hitbox tweaks are mainly to make it easier to hit downwards
(en relacion a lo anterior)

• Normal throw range increased (similar to Ryu)
(aumentada pero no tan barza como ken o dhalsim)

• Elbow can be performed not just by holding down, but df or db too
(codazo aereo ahora con diagonales tambien, ojo)

• Command Jump/Izuna drop (all versions) – less recovery on landing if no buttons are pressed, so you can get in and aim for throws etc
(mas castigable si no hizo nada antes de aterrizar)

• EX senpukyaku is fixed so that itll hit easier (where it might whiff before), easier to use against opponent jumping in, easier to not whiff against small framed opponents
(muxo mejor para corners, wakeups, y chanchitos de tierra ahora)

• The run overhead kick (kubigari) – tweaked so that it wont go over crouching opponents if performed at close range/point blank
(ya no pasa cagando a quemarropa)

• Finally walkback speed is increased
(camina mas rapido hacia atras)

• Increased movement distance on Bushin Goraisenpujin
(U1 avanza mas)

• Increased throw range on Bushin Muso Renge
(U2 llave no tan a quemarropa)


• Hakan gets oiled from the start of the match
(sep, leyeron bien, el turco parte el round aceitado!!!!)

• Neutral jumping short hitbox is bigger
• Neutral jumping jab is active 8 frames
• Neutral jumping strong is active 4 frames
(arreglando aun mas las verticales)

• Jumping jab is active 8 frames
(eran 6 antes)

• Crouching HP now hits twice
(sujeto a varios cambios maseso si)

• F.MP has a smaller vulnerability area
(menos hurtbox, pokeo mas util)

• Coward Crouch can be cancelled into from a dash, making Hakan slide
(el anti proyecti menos castigabla al se cancelable)

• Oil Sliding into body press now deals 150 stun total, and is dealt after the body press, preventing people from getting up to mash out early if the slide stunned them
(glitch: podia stunnear antes del remate, limitandote tiempo de castigo post stun, corregido,
ahora stunnea el total post remate)

• Medium and Heavy oil dive, when wiffing a crouching opponent, will go past your opponent to make punishing him harder. The light version is faster to startup, and the Medium and Heavy versions can reach opponents much farther away
(mejoras varias al oil dive, viaja mas, menos castigable en whiff porque puede pasar cagando ahora)

• Hakan’s super activates faster and, like oil dive, medium and heavy versions can pass over crouching opponents
(arreglo mas que necesario al super pa que valga la pena juntarlo)


• Bonshougeri (F+HK) has different movement trajectory, will hit crouching opponents more easily; +1 on hit, +5 on counterhit, -3 on block
(arreglos por utilidad a la bonsho kick)

• Koube Kudaki (F+MK), including TC version, from 26F to 25F start-up
(mas facil conectar el high attack)

• Tsuijigoe (command jump) is throw-invincible until Ibuki is airborne, from activation until 12F has a smaller hurtbox, making low attacks are easier to dodge; can Super-cancel from an earlier timing than before
• At point-blank, can use the move to dodge a throw and hit the opponent with Kasumi Suzaku (Super Combo)
(comand jump mas facil evadir agarres y castigar con super)

• The projectile portion of Yoroitoshi (UC1) will now give you full hit animation against airborne opponents
• Based on the opponent and spacing, you can catch a backdash with UC1 and get the full animation, even if the throw portion (which comes first) whiffs
(U1 mas util en throw whiff)

• Hashinsho (UC2) will now hit up until the lock animation against mid-air opponents
• For example, if you hit a mid-air opponent with Focus Attack Lv2, you will now land all of the pre-cinematic hits (but not the full ultra, I’m assuming).
(U2 podria conectar full sin cinema en mid-air juggle)

.....ufff, me canse, me queda analizar la mitad del roster, mañana sin falta cabros.......


• Faster forward dash during FSE
• Expanded hit box for 2nd hit of st.mk
• Hitbox for FA repositioned to hit crouching/low position characters better.
• +50 damage to Fuhajin rising kick
• +5F advatage on hit for 1st hit of lk Senpusha
• +5F advatage on hit for 1st & 2nd hit of mk/hk Senpusha
• +5F advatage on hit for 2nd hit of EX Senpusha
As such, Senpusha -> FADC -> U2 combo is now possible
• EX Senpusha is invincible until 1st hit during FSE
• Changes in EX Shikusen trajectory:
lk+mk: same as before
mk+hk: same as mk shikusen
lk+hk: same as hk shikusen
3K: same as before
• Super Meter increases at 1/3 of normal rate during FSE


• Target combo hits easier on crouching opponents, can also delay the inputs.
• EX Shoryuken damage 80+30+30+50, 190 total.

*M. Bison*

• Scissors stun changed to 100/50 (150 total) on all strengths
• First hit causes 1f extra hitstun, so if you FADC the first hit you can have +5 advantage at best.


• From 1000 to 950 health (back to Super value)
• Fukiage damage for LP, MP, HP from 100 to 90, EX from 140 to 120
• EX Karakusa has less ranage
• st.HK has a lower extended hitbox
• Target Combo 1′s st.MK can be cancelled, like the normal version
• Tanden Renki (Super Combo) is 3 seconds londer
• neutral j.MP has a forward extended hitbox, hurtbox
• Hayate have improved properties on charge
• LP Lv3, Lv4 and MP Lv4 have further forward movement, all Lv4 strengths are -2 on guard
• All Lv5 strengths are armor break, further forward movement, from 170 to 190 damage
• Can tell when you reach Lv5 charge timing by Makoto’s voice


• Stamina from 950 to 1000.
• First hit of EX Goshoryuken causes untechable knockdown.
• Previously for EX Hurricane there were situations where not every hit would connect. That has been fixed.
• LK Demon Slash now has an additional hitbox on the lower side, so it’s easier to hit thinner/crouching opponents.
• Raging Demon’s damage icreased from 350 to 370 regardless if it’s ground or air.
• With UC1, when you aim it upwards, it’s 9 frames on start-up. Full invincibility from start-up to the second active frame.


•Soul Spark meter gain returned to 20->30
•Soul Satellite’s startup frames from 7 to 5
•Soul Piede changed to Vanilla properties
•Close standing MK +4 on hit, making it easier to combo into crouching jab, as well as making it possible to combo into cr.mp.
•Fixed some bug with crouching mk counterhits.


• MK Messiah Kick on hit can be followed up by LK continuation.
• Since you couldn’t use it as an AA in original AE, Big Bang Typhoon as an AA will hit a maximum of 10 times, for 236 damage.


• Increased the vertical hitbox on U2 for better anti-air/full animation.
• Can combo full U2 after counter hit Shakunetsu Hadoken. So if c.mk gets absorbed by a FA, Ryu can do EX Fireball, FADC U2 for 500 damage. If Ryu is close range he can hit EX Fireball -> U2 without FADC.
• The “brake” frame on air Tatsu decreased by 3 frames, if used on this frame the trajectory will change.
• Solar plexus 40+60 for 100 total damage.
• If he hits S.RH counter hit on a crouching opponent he can combo sweep after it.


• Angry Scar Tiger Uppercut damage increased: LP, MP, and EX get +10


• Only thing the developers have changed here was EX Hurricane Kick.
• Many Sakura players were unhappy that when you do Crouching LK -> crouching LP -> crouching HP -> EX Hurricane, on certain characters the last hit would not connect. They’ve rectified this so it now works on all characters.


Only small changes here, apparently. Tanden Stream only does 340 damage now, but cr.HP, Tanden Stream does full damage. Furthermore, if the first hit connects, Seth becomes invincible for the entire animation.

Otherwise, his jumping FP now has 4 active frames and nj.MK has lower body fireball invincibility after the active frames finish. Also, the issue of cr.LP, cr.MP not hitting some characters after a successful j.HK has been partially remedied (they say ‘loosened’ or ‘eased’, rather than ‘fixed’, so it’s probably still there to some extent).


• Minor changes that have to do with his match-ups.
• The first hit of crouching HK on block has more blockstun, by 2 frames. Opponents who try to jump away after blocking the first hit will now be caught with the second hit due to this adjustment. Also, T.Hawk’s head-area hurtbox is projectile-invincible during this animation. So for instance, Sagat’s high Tiger Shots will no longer hit Hawk out of his crouching HK.
• (Diagonal jump) down+HP can now be performed with neutral jumps.
• Down-forward+LP on hit is now -2 frame disadvantage. Down from -5 in AE.
• Medium Tomahawk Buster is throw-invincible from start-up to the frame T.Hawk leaves the ground.
• Condor Spire’s shortcut motion has been revised, so it should be easier to activate with that now.


• Stun changed to 950
• Target Combo 2 130 damage, -7 on second attack
• st.LK start-up to 5F, but has the original start up during Sei’ei Enbu
• cr.LK from 30 damage to 20, upward extended hurtbox
• cr.MP from 80 to 70 damage, 60 during Sei’ei Enbu
• (Far) st.MP hitbox pushed backwards, thus has shorter range
• diagonal j.MK hitbox changed, landing cross-ups is not as easier as before
• Raigekishu (dive kick): all versions have an addition hurtbox rectangle when activated, 2F extra landing recovery; stun from 100 to 50
• Senkyutai (roll kick): up until 5F, HK no longer has projectile-invincibility, MK has no projectile-invincibility at all
• All versions of Senkyutai (including EX) have about half size horizontal hitbox, all are 4F worse on guard
• EX Zenpou Tenshin has less reach, loses throw invincibility from the 8F onward
• Tourou Zan (mantis slashes): final hit of LP, MP, HP damage to 60; EX version now a true blockstring for all hits
• Byakko Soshoda (palm): MP, HP meter gain on whiff from 20 to 10, two extra frames to LP, MP, HP
• HP damage from 150 to 140, chip to 30, stun from 250 to 200; MP, HP have 4 less active frames
• Sei’ei Enbu is a second shorter, does less damage from chip
• Raishin Mahaken (UC1) from 480 to 450 at full UC meter
• Tenshin Senkyutai (UC2) is 3F slower, from 440 to 410 at full UC meter; the last hit of the non-cinematic version does 90 damage


• Target Combo 2 120 damage
• Target Combo 3 120 damage
• Target Combo 4 130 damage, -6 on block for second hit
• Target Combo 5 70 damage
• cr.LK has an upward extended hurtbox
• cr.MP damage from 60 to 50
• Higher high restriction for Raigekishu (dive kick), for LK, MK, and HK (all versions)
• +2 extra frames of hit, block stun on Raigekishu
• Senpukyaku (i’m assuming overhead) from 85 damage to 80 during Gen’ei Jin
• LK, MK, HK Zenpou Tenshin slowed to 11F, EX to 8F
• No throw invincibility on EX Zenpou
• EX Zesshou (lunge) hit distribution changed from 7/2 to 6/3, -1 on block
• MP, HP Kobokushi (palm) meter gain to +20
• LP Koboku is 25 frames total, MP, HP 45 frames total
• MP, HP Koboku damage from 160 to 140, stun from 250 to 200; chip damage for MP, HP to 30
• Active frames for MP, HP Koboku to 10
• Nishoukyaku (up kicks): LK only has invincibility up (and including) the first active frame
• More landing recovery on all versions (including EX)
• MK Nishou from 130 damage to 110
• Tetsuzanko (shoulder): HP damage from 140 to 100, EX from 80+70 to 90+40 (130 total); during the projectile invincible parts of the move, Yun’s hurtbox against physical strikes is expanded
• Gen’ei Jin is a second shorter, does less damage


• cr.HK damage increased to 110, same as Super.
• +1 more frame of hitstun on the opponent after cosmic heel, making it -3 at worst.
• Sky High Claw causes blowback when it hits a grounded opponent (same words as the blanka ball change)
• U1 hitbox after it hits on the way up increased drastically so that it doesn’t unexpectedly miss.
• U2 startup changed to 8f.


• MP Thunder Knuckle 120 -> 110 damage
• EX Thunder Knuckle startup reduced to 25f, but +2 recovery
• EX Seismo 120 -> 100 damage
• U1 -> 441 damage
• U1 hitbox improved so it’s easier to hit fully after air burnkick and HP Thunder Knuckle
• U2 damage increased to 410


• Jab SPD 150 stun.
• EX Backfist damage 90+50 for a total of 140. Stun 100+50 for a total of 150.
• Adjusted the hitbox on c.jab, so that it hits more easily off a jump-in against characters it formerly didn’t. Hurtbox for c.roundhouse reduced in height, making it easier to pass under certain attacks.

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MensajeTema: Re: modificaciones mono a mono Ver. 2012   Sáb 27 Ago 2011 - 4:08

Ya lo habia leido por ahi me alegro que el KEN quitara mas con el SHORYUKEN XD



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MensajeTema: Re: modificaciones mono a mono Ver. 2012   Sáb 27 Ago 2011 - 4:57

...de hecho pollo es mas especifico el buff....

...redistribuyeron el daño del EXshoryuken de tal manera que en combo sufra menos escala....
....suelto pega lo mismo que siempre......

...recuerda que al arreglarle el jab, el damage scaling se va a la mierda despues de 3 seguidos....
....para eso es el buff del shoryuken.....

...y el otro buff para ken es que el target combo (MP->HP) podras pegarselo a cualquier wn agachao
y sera retrasable para darle mas frame traps al mono (leer articulo del DTS).......

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MensajeTema: Re: modificaciones mono a mono Ver. 2012   Sáb 27 Ago 2011 - 14:16

woooow menso pos timmy ta muy cool las pichikateadas al juego esto les va a servir caleta a los que se dedican a jugar sst4ae lo cual no es mi caso por que yo solo intento jugar jojojo

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MensajeTema: Re: modificaciones mono a mono Ver. 2012   Sáb 27 Ago 2011 - 15:39

ANTICRISTO escribió:
woooow menso pos timmy ta muy cool las pichikateadas al juego esto les va a servir caleta a los que se dedican a jugar sst4ae lo cual no es mi caso por que yo solo intento jugar jojojo

Yo estoy actualmente en las mismas, aunque los buff de Bison, sobre todo ese +5 del FADC de la Scissor Kicks que me permitira hacer combos mas nastys. Me acuerdo que en Chocolate hacia cr.lk despues de ello y con suerte alcanzaba, ahora dicen que entra hasta un cr.mk, la wea sexy

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MensajeTema: Re: modificaciones mono a mono Ver. 2012   Sáb 27 Ago 2011 - 15:48

te felicito timmita y te agradessco el post!!

cross up

pal dud!!




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MensajeTema: Re: modificaciones mono a mono Ver. 2012   Sáb 27 Ago 2011 - 16:07

XD lloro wn lloro XD.

TIMMY i love you moac!!!!!!



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MensajeTema: Re: modificaciones mono a mono Ver. 2012   Sáb 27 Ago 2011 - 21:10

...estense atentos....el post aun no esta terminado y los developers iran sacando y colocando
mas arreglos...los que espero ir colocando de manera pertinente.......

...asi que este hilo no queda solo aqui......

EDIT: aqui uno de los primeros location test para ver y probar los cambios aplicados
(en 10:00 mas o menos notaran que los mellizos quedaron un poco mas turcos)

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MensajeTema: Re: modificaciones mono a mono Ver. 2012   Mar 30 Ago 2011 - 0:11

por siaca en los cambios de chun hay un error timmy (eso te pasa por usar esa mierda de eventcaca)

el start up de los kikoken sigue igual, le cambiaron el start up al ultra2.

b.mk es una mierda simple y llanamente

df.mk para las stomp lo mismo

el stun en la patada fuerte fue un nerfeo feo, antes hacia 200, lo cual era la zorra, ahora por lo menos hará 150 (en AE hace 100)

en general los cambios que mas queria no los dieron, pero pudo ser peor, ojala nos devuelvan df.lk

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MensajeTema: Re: modificaciones mono a mono Ver. 2012   Mar 16 Abr 2013 - 9:00

la practica es importante

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